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Death Snapper · Jul 24, 2006, 10:57 PM // 22:57

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Originally Posted by xMikex

• Customizable Heroes (party NPCs) that level up with the player, follow player instructions in combat, and use armor, weapons, and skills of the player’s choice.

• A new game type, Hero vs. Hero Battles will allow a single player to participate in PvP with hero NPCs.

OMG! Thank you anet!!!

Grammar · Jul 24, 2006, 10:58 PM // 22:58

Customizable heros taking the place of henchmen sounds fantastic.
You level them up, set their armor and builds, give them instructions (hopefully it'll be role/task-based instructions), and even bring them with you into HvH.

I think this is just the shot in the arm PvE needs.
(and in addition, serves as yet another gateway into PvP for PvE players)

Solar_Takfar · Jul 24, 2006, 10:58 PM // 22:58

That sounds like the stuff I've always dreamed of for henchies!!!

Hero vs Hero sounds cool, too. And the number of quests/missions is promising. I'm still curious about the elite PvE, tho.

thanks anet ^_^ <-- I don't usually do this, but that announcement deserved it!!!

Branskins · Jul 24, 2006, 10:59 PM // 22:59

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

o.o so we each get a sidekick? a manslave? oh joy ^_^

I can make the Lyra-Gumi!!!

Actually it seems like we will get sidekickS / manslaveS. It seems like you can take more than one under your wing!

It kind of has a RTS sound to it. You have to control and manage your own little army!

I pwnd U · Jul 24, 2006, 11:01 PM // 23:01

Hopefully that is true cause that defiently looks like it will be freaking awesome! ANet is finally doing something about the stupid henchmen. We may never get to see Alesias middle of battle rez ever again... sad day...

Mercury Angel · Jul 24, 2006, 11:02 PM // 23:02

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Originally Posted by Mister_Smiley

It should be intresting to see if its the real offical story line, or something that ebgames came up with.

300 skills new skills, 150 for new characters and another 150 for all other characters which mean new stuff for Assassin and Rits. As for the NPC, thats total going to rule.

300 skills (with a handful of extra duplicate skills that weren't in the initial 300) was the amount factions added.

150 for the new professions, 75/75 split, and then 25 a piece for the core professions.

The only way Ritualists and Assassins are getting anything is if they decrease the additional core profession skills. 150 doesn't quite make a round number to split 8 ways. 18 a piece with 6 leftover, or 15 for core professions, 30 for factions professions, or 20 for core professions and 15 for factions professions.

Regardless of what they choose, I don't think we can expect to see nearly as many skills, if any at all, for the Ritualist and Assassin as we did with Factions. (Edit: I don't mean another 75, in case that came out wrong. I mean, I don't expect Ritualists and Assassins to get as many skills as Core professions did with the release of factions during the release of Nightfall. That is, once again, if they get any at all.)

And sadly, if it's like the Factions release, we won't get to see a single one until the actual release of the game, barring the Paragon and Dervish

They'll sit there and taunt us from the skill select screen as locked icons! Laughing at us!

kidding <_<

Customizable hench is something people have been begging for since... well, forever. I think it'll be an excellent addition to the game.

The quests are likely so-so, but I'll toast to new missions.

CHUIU · Jul 24, 2006, 11:07 PM // 23:07

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Originally Posted by xMikex

• 300 new skills.

For those who don't see the math here:

75 Dervish
75 Paragon
25 6 core professions (10 new, 10 elites, 5 copies)
300

In other words, exactly what Factions was in the way of skills.

Jetdoc · Jul 24, 2006, 11:11 PM // 23:11

They don't have to stick with the same skill numbers as Factions, ya know...

70 Dervish
70 Paragon
20 x 8 current professions
300

.defekt · Jul 24, 2006, 11:12 PM // 23:12

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Originally Posted by xMikex

• Customizable Heroes (party NPCs) that level up with the player, follow player instructions in combat, and use armor, weapons, and skills of the player’s choice.

Diablo 2?

lyra_song · Jul 24, 2006, 11:12 PM // 23:12

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Originally Posted by CHUIU

For those who don't see the math here:

75 Dervish
75 Paragon
25 6 core professions (10 new, 10 elites, 5 copies)
300

In other words, exactly what Factions was in the way of skills.

Actually each core class got 30 skills in factions.

Thats including the copies.

Without the copies, its 25.

Duckchow · Jul 24, 2006, 11:15 PM // 23:15

Very cool, can't wait for a PvE weekend to try some of these.

ducktape · Jul 24, 2006, 11:18 PM // 23:18

• Customizable Heroes (party NPCs) that level up with the player, follow player instructions in combat, and use armor, weapons, and skills of the player’s choice.

ZOMG!! Awesome!! No more crappy pick-up groups!! No more aggro-happy henchmen!!

• A new game type, Hero vs. Hero Battles will allow a single player to participate in PvP with hero NPCs.

Not sure, might be more fun than alliance battles

• Two new professions: The Dervish, a scythe-wielding holy warrior and The Paragon, the guardian angels of the Elonian people.

They do look interesting

• 4 new guild halls.

Yay

• 300 new skills.

Uh oh, 300/8 = 37.5, 300/6 = 50. No new skills for A and Rt? Even if dervish and paragon come with 75 skills each, that's 150 new skills left for everyone else; 150/8 = 18.75, 150/6 = 25. Looks like they're adding skills for only the 6 core professions, not all 8 that are currently available.
Bummer.

• 250 Quests, 55 explorable areas, 20 new Story Missions, and three new Challenge Missions.

Tons of quests and 55 explorable areas? 20 missions instead of 13? Where do I sign?

w00t indeed...

Eet GnomeSmasher · Jul 24, 2006, 11:19 PM // 23:19

Some very nice and interesting changes coming for Chapter 3 obviously. Hopefully, people will stop the ridiculous complaining about ANET neglecting PVE.

Mercury Angel · Jul 24, 2006, 11:19 PM // 23:19

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

Actually each core class got 30 skills in factions.

Thats including the copies.

Without the copies, its 25.

Darn, you beat me

Sample for proof:

Genuinely New:
Energy Boon {E}
Bed of Coals
Breath of Fire
Burning Speed
Conjure Flame
Double Dragon {E}
Lava Arrows
Smoldering Embers
Star Burst {E}
Ash Blast
Churning Earth
Shockwave {E}
Sliver Armor
Unsteady Ground {E}
Ward of Stability
Icy Prism
Mirror of Ice {E}
Shatterstone {E}
Arc Lightning
Gust {E}
Lightning Hammer
Ride the Lightning {E}
Shock Arrow
Glyph of Essence
Second Wind {E}

Repeat New:
Teinai's Crystals
Teinai's Heat
Dragon's Stomp
Teinai's Prison
Teinai's Wind

30 new skills, only 5 repeats, making it 25 genuinely new skills, 10 of which are elites.

kuhu · Jul 24, 2006, 11:21 PM // 23:21

Im not sure about you guys but the storyline sounds a bit like prince of persia: two thrones to me. I really like the way they are going with this though, can't wait for it

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devils wraths · Jul 24, 2006, 11:25 PM // 23:25

that can be a total rumour but gaile said today when she was in shign jea that hero vs hero battle is true

Reiden Argrock · Jul 24, 2006, 11:27 PM // 23:27

I don't see why people think Rit's and Sin's will be getting any new skills.

Nightfall and Factions don't have any tie's. Sin's and Rit's are unique to the factions chapter, as Dervish and Paragon will be unique to Nightfall, and as every 2 new class's will be unique to their chapter.

While it may seem unfair for certain class's to keep getting new skills (the core 6) just consider how many skills are never used anyway..

aside from that, I can't wait, can't wait to equip my war with a scythe

Tachyon · Jul 24, 2006, 11:27 PM // 23:27

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Originally Posted by xMikex

• Customizable Heroes (party NPCs) that level up with the player, follow player instructions in combat, and use armor, weapons, and skills of the player’s choice.

At last, commandable henchies! I wonder if this means an end to me screaming "don't aggro everything and try to fight, heal me bitch" at the monitor.

ischuros · Jul 24, 2006, 11:27 PM // 23:27

I wonder if we'll have to pay to upgrade Henchmans armour/weapons, and if they're 'dynamic/unique' to us, like your pet, they level up with you and you get like level 3 henchies to start and then by using them you get higher level henchies.

Ristaron · Jul 24, 2006, 11:30 PM // 23:30

The dervish looked pretty good... until I realized that he wore a dress.